Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/07/2003 07:10 AM House W&M

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HB 293-STATE SALES AND USE TAX                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WHITAKER  announced  that  the only  order  of  business                                                              
would be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 293,  "An Act  levying and collecting  a                                                              
state sales and use tax; and providing for an effective date."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0114                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
WALLY  JOHNSON testified  in opposition  to HB  293.   He said  in                                                              
looking at  the state's fiscal problems  he agrees that  the state                                                              
does  need more  funds  which can  only  come  from the  permanent                                                              
fund,  a sales tax,  or an  income tax.   He  shared his  personal                                                              
experience of being  born in 1929, shortly before  the Depression,                                                              
and  the  traumatic  situations  [that  those  of  his  generation                                                              
faced].   Mr. Johnson  told the  members that  the Depression  and                                                              
war lasted until  1945 when World War  II ended.  He  said he will                                                              
never forget  when his  father cried  because he  was out  of work                                                              
with no money.   Mr. Johnson spoke to the effect  this [sales tax]                                                              
will have  on seniors.   The longevity  bonus is being  taken away                                                              
to save $47 million;  the tax burden will be raised  by 8 percent;                                                              
and there  is no  time or  opportunity in  a senior's  lifetime to                                                              
recover,  he  said.    Mr. Johnson  pointed  out  that  in  Kodiak                                                              
individuals  who are  65 years  old or  older do  not have to  pay                                                              
sales tax; however,  if this bill passes seniors will  have to pay                                                              
a sales tax  on food, rent, services,  and medicine.   He told the                                                              
committee  he presently  takes  medicine  for various  conditions,                                                              
and his wife was  diagnosed with has cancer in 1999.   His hearing                                                              
and vision  are slowly  going, and  there is  not enough  time for                                                              
him  to work  to overcome  [these  proposed changes  in the  law].                                                              
Mr.  Johnson summarized  his  comments by  saying  that this  bill                                                              
will be an economic disaster for seniors.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0614                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WHITAKER  told Mr.  Johnson  that the  current  proposal                                                              
before the committee is 3 percent, not 8 percent.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON  responded that  Kodiak resident  now pay a  6 percent                                                              
local tax.   If the legislature puts  a cap on the sales  tax at 8                                                              
percent, the  city will  get 5 percent  and the  state will  get 3                                                              
percent.   Presently, since he  is a senior,  he does not  have to                                                              
pay a  local sales tax.   This proposed  sales tax will  mean that                                                              
small  communities will  [die] and  Alaska will  consist of  three                                                              
large areas  where all residents  will live.   This tax  will lead                                                              
to  the  destruction  of  the  economic  infrastructure  in  small                                                              
communities.     He  suggested   that  the  legislature   use  the                                                              
permanent fund [to compensate for the fiscal gap].                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0859                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OGG  told the  members  that  Mr. Johnson  is  the                                                              
former  mayor  of   the  City  of  Kodiak  and  owner   of  a  car                                                              
dealership.   He asked  Mr. Johnson  to speak to  the impact  of a                                                              
sales tax on car dealers in outlying communities.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON  replied that if an  individual wanted to  save money,                                                              
he/she could  go to Washington State  and purchase a vehicle  at a                                                              
savings of  about $8,000.   If  the new  tax were implemented,  an                                                              
individual buying  a car in  Kodiak would  have to pay  8 percent;                                                              
however, the tax  in Anchorage would only be 3 percent.   He added                                                              
that there is a $500 cap in Kodiak.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1121                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
NELS ANDERSON,  JR. testified  in opposition to  HB 293.   He told                                                              
the  members  that  he  is  a  former   state  Representative  and                                                              
Senator,   who  has   watched   Bristol   Bay's  vibrant   economy                                                              
deteriorate to  an economic disaster.   He said he  cannot support                                                              
a  [statewide]  sales tax  because  Bristol  Bay and  other  small                                                              
communities  across  the  state  cannot  absorb  new  taxes.    He                                                              
explained  that  Dillingham already  has  a  6 percent  sales  tax                                                              
while Anchorage  has none.  If this  tax were to be  fair, the new                                                              
legislation   should  mandate   all   communities   that  have   a                                                              
population  over 1,500  to adopt  a sales tax,  so that  everybody                                                              
pays a sales tax in the state.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  told the members that  in addition to the  6 percent                                                              
sales tax,  he pays a personal  property tax and boat  launch tax.                                                              
He  related  his  belief  that areas  identified  as  an  economic                                                              
disaster  should be  exempt from  the [statewide]  sales tax.   He                                                              
said Bristol  Bay is  doing everything  it can  to revitalize  the                                                              
salmon  industry; however,  it does  not look  like salmon  prices                                                              
will be  very much higher  than last year.   Mr. Anderson  said he                                                              
does not  see how  it will  be possible  to diversify the  economy                                                              
while increasing the tax burden.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON suggested  that  the  legislature perform  a  socio-                                                              
economic  impact study  to see  what the  high cost  of living  is                                                              
doing  to rural  Alaska.   He said  he believes  [this sales  tax]                                                              
would  vacate every  village  into a  larger  community.   Another                                                              
issue  the legislature  needs  to look  at  is whether  Anchorage,                                                              
Fairbanks,  and  Juneau  can absorb  an  additional  75,000-80,000                                                              
people moving in.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON said  this particular  tax  hurts low-income  people                                                              
more  than anyone  else.   It is  especially hard  on retirees  or                                                              
those who  live on  fixed incomes.   He  asked that the  committee                                                              
hold this legislation,  conduct more hearings, and  look for other                                                              
sources of  income.  He pointed  out that there is a  great desire                                                              
to give the oil  and gas industry tax breaks when  the state needs                                                              
more revenue.   He reiterated his  hope that this  committee holds                                                              
this bill  in committee  because  of the negative  impact  it will                                                              
have on rural communities.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1540                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
TOM HEALY, City  Manager, City of Palmer, testified  in opposition                                                              
to  HB   293  because  the   passage  of  this   legislation  will                                                              
fundamentally  change the  ability  of many  local governments  to                                                              
control  local sales  tax revenues  and municipal  finances.   For                                                              
more than  90 local governments  sales tax revenues  are essential                                                              
to the local  governments' ability to provide  basic services that                                                              
have been impacted by state budget cuts.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HEALY commented  that there  are serious  concerns about  the                                                              
potential impacts  of HB 293.   Although he acknowledged  that the                                                              
state  must  look in  that  direction  to  bring its  budget  into                                                              
balance, the state's  administration of local sales  taxes has the                                                              
potential to decrease  local tax revenue and knock  the foundation                                                              
out  from under  many  local  governments'  finances.   Mr.  Healy                                                              
pointed  out that  HB 293  will essentially  repeal everything  in                                                              
the local  sales ordinances except  the local tax rate,  and shift                                                              
the  administration of  taxes to  the  state.   He explained  that                                                              
their  primary   revenue  source  will  be  subject   to  absentee                                                              
oversight,  to rules  on taxable  sales or exemptions  not  of the                                                              
community's  choosing,   and  to  payment  schedules   that  could                                                              
seriously upset  the city's  cash flow.   This will result  in the                                                              
loss  of control  that  has sustained  the  community  for a  long                                                              
time, he  said.  For  years, sales tax,  as granted by  the state,                                                              
has  been in  the  local government  domain  and essentially  free                                                              
from  state  interference.   Mr.  Healy  told the  committee  that                                                              
local governments  have crafted  sales tax  programs that  work in                                                              
their  communities.   He  added  that there  are  probably no  two                                                              
sales  ordinances alike  in Alaska.   The City  of Palmer's  sales                                                              
tax was established  in 1951 and today the sales  tax revenues are                                                              
55  percent of  the general  fund  revenue.   Mr. Healy  explained                                                              
that these  revenues are very important  to the city's  budget and                                                              
these  finances could  be easily  upset by  changes in  exemptions                                                              
under a statewide  sales tax such as HB 293.  For  example, it has                                                              
been  suggested  that grocery  sales  be  exempted to  reduce  the                                                              
burden  on paying  sales tax  on  essential items.   However,  the                                                              
City of  Palmer presently  taxes grocery  sales and  if HB  293 is                                                              
adopted and the  legislature decides to exempt  grocery sales from                                                              
the sales  tax, Palmer  will loose  one-quarter  of its sales  tax                                                              
revenues or  12 percent of  its entire  general fund revenue.   To                                                              
replace  those lost  revenues,  the City  of  Palmer would  either                                                              
have to  raise its  sales tax  rate or  increase its property  tax                                                              
mils  from 3  mils  to 7.5  mils.   This  is  one  example of  the                                                              
potential  serious  effects the  sales  tax  would have  on  local                                                              
finances by  a relatively  small change  in this legislation,  Mr.                                                              
Healy said.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. HEALY  agreed that there is  no question that the  state faces                                                              
a  serious budget  imbalance,  and to  correct  this will  require                                                              
fundamental  changes in state  fiscal policy  on both  the expense                                                              
and revenue  sides of  the budget.   However, it  appears to  be a                                                              
questionable policy to  adopt measures such as HB 293  that have a                                                              
positive revenue result  for the state, but a  negative result for                                                              
local governments.   If the state is looking for  more revenue, he                                                              
suggested  the   legislature  might  look  at   potential  revenue                                                              
sources not  used by local  governments before venturing  into the                                                              
complexities of a  sales tax.  For example, other  revenue sources                                                              
might  include  a  gasoline  tax,   an  income  tax,  use  of  the                                                              
permanent  fund, taxes  on natural  resources, and  user fees,  he                                                              
said.   Mr.  Healy summarized  his comments  by saying  that if  a                                                              
statewide sales  tax is inevitable, local governments  must retain                                                              
the ability  to set there own  rules to define taxable  and exempt                                                              
sales, and  to monitor local tax  collection.  He told  the member                                                              
that  a sales  tax measure  must not  take away  local control  or                                                              
local sales tax programs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2023                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR COOPER,  Mayor, City of  Palmer, testified in  opposition to                                                              
HB 293.   He told  the members that  nobody likes taxes;  however,                                                              
it  is time  that all  Alaskans  help shoulder  this  burden.   He                                                              
commented  that there  are as many  opinions  on sales and  income                                                              
taxes as there  are people in the  state.  He urged  the committee                                                              
to  deal  with  facts, not  emotions;  and  emphasized  that  only                                                              
communities  that deal  with sales  taxes on  a daily basis  truly                                                              
understand the  impact sales taxes  have on local  municipalities.                                                              
The way the bill  is written creates more questions  than answers.                                                              
Mayor  Cooper said  that he  hopes  the legislature  will work  in                                                              
partnership  with local  municipalities  to create  a solution  to                                                              
this problem.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2153                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG  commented   that  the  committee   has                                                              
listened to  a lot of testimony  around the state and  will listen                                                              
to a  lot more.   He  said he appreciates  Mayor Cooper's  candor,                                                              
honesty, and  leadership, and  asked him to  take that  message to                                                              
constituents.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WHITAKER  announced for  the record that  Representatives                                                              
Gruenberg, Wilson, and Cissna had joined the committee.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2229                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
TIMOTHY JOYCE,  Mayor, City  of Cordova,  testified in  opposition                                                              
to  HB  293.    He  told  the  committee  that  the  city  council                                                              
unanimously  passed a resolution  opposing  a statewide sales  tax                                                              
in Alaska.   One reason for  opposition is that a  statewide sales                                                              
tax would  tax Cordova  residents at  a higher  rate for  the same                                                              
goods  and  services  than  larger   cities,  such  as  Anchorage.                                                              
Because the  cost of those goods  and services are much  higher in                                                              
Cordova an item  that might cost $2 in Anchorage  could cost $3 in                                                              
Cordova resulting  in one-third  higher taxes  for the  same item.                                                              
He added  that if freight  is taxed that  cost will  increase even                                                              
more.  Mayor  Joyce told the committee that the  proposed matching                                                              
grant is  not sufficient  to cover  the loss  in revenue  from the                                                              
proposed  7 percent tax.   He  explained that  every 1  percent of                                                              
sales tax  in Cordova generates  over $400,000 in revenue  for the                                                              
city.   The  current sales  tax is  6 percent.   This  legislation                                                              
will  cost Cordova  over $800,000  in [lost]  revenue, while  only                                                              
providing $400,000  in community  self-help matching grants.   The                                                              
self-help  matching  grant  does  not have  a  built-in  inflation                                                              
adjustment  or economic development  adjustment.   He pointed  out                                                              
that as  costs increase  or economic  activity increases,  the tax                                                              
collected will  increase.  However,  the self-help  matching grant                                                              
will remain  fixed.   The 7  percent tax  limit will require  that                                                              
any increased revenue  needs for the city must  be replaced solely                                                              
on the  property owners in the  form of increased  property taxes.                                                              
Mayor Joyce  pointed out that right  now the property tax  rate is                                                              
at 13.5  mils, and if  this bill passes  it would be  necessary to                                                              
raise the property  tax to over 18 mils.  A sales  tax rate over 7                                                              
percent  will  stifle   economic  activity  in  Cordova   as  more                                                              
residents will look  to catalog purchases to avoid  this tax or to                                                              
lower tax  areas such as Anchorage.   He commented that  the self-                                                              
help matching  grant will  require more  accounting staff  time to                                                              
provide  the information  required  to receive  the  grant and  no                                                              
provision  has been  made to  reimburse  the city  for that  staff                                                              
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MAYOR  JOYCE  advised  the  committee that  the  City  of  Cordova                                                              
currently has  a 6 percent  sales tax and  6 percent  surcharge on                                                              
car rentals  and temporary  lodging.  He  said it appears  that an                                                              
amendment  to  HB  293  will  require  the  repeal  of  sales  tax                                                              
surcharges on car  rentals and temporary lodging  which will again                                                              
cause a  painful reduction in city  revenues.  Cordova  would lose                                                              
the  ability  to  stimulate  economic   activity  to  provide  tax                                                              
exemptions in  specific areas of  business.  For  example, Cordova                                                              
limits  its tax  to the first  $2,500  of a single  sale to  avoid                                                              
driving  business  to  other  areas.   In  closing,  Mayor  Joyce,                                                              
encouraged  the   legislature  to  look  for  alternate   ways  to                                                              
generate state  revenue.  He suggested  applying the sales  tax to                                                              
cities  with populations  of  over 15,000  people  that have  road                                                              
access to  the Alaska highway  and exempt  the rest of  the state.                                                              
He offered  other suggestions  such as a  $50 tax to  every cruise                                                              
ship passenger,  a $3  airport departure  tax for every  passenger                                                              
leaving  the  state,   or  a  state  income  tax.     Mayor  Joyce                                                              
summarized his comments  by saying that [a statewide]  sales taxes                                                              
will  do  more  harm  in  rural  areas  than  any  other  tax  the                                                              
legislature could suggest.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2631                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL RASMUSSEN testified  in opposition to HB 293.   He said he                                                              
agrees that  the state has a  revenue problem and that  all people                                                              
should pay;  however, the problem  with all people  paying through                                                              
the  sales  tax   is  that  it  is  a  discriminatory   [tax]  for                                                              
individuals who  have a  different cost of  living [such  as those                                                              
who live  in small or rural  communities].  He told  the committee                                                              
that he  has lived  in Kodiak for  over 40  years and  believes it                                                              
will cause  serious problems with  local governments  that already                                                              
have sales taxes in place.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. RASMUSSEN  told the members  it is  time to use  the permanent                                                              
fund, which was  designed to be there  for a rainy day.   That day                                                              
has come,  he commented.   Mr. Rasmussen  said he believes  that a                                                              
lot of people  pay a portion of  their dividend to the  IRS and if                                                              
a portion  of that  dividend were  taken, the  IRS would  get less                                                              
and those funds would remain in Alaska.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. RASMUSSEN  pointed out that  the average Alaskans  receives no                                                              
benefit from  cruise ship passengers.   Last year there  were over                                                              
780,000  individuals coming  through  the Inside  Passage, a  $120                                                              
[head] tax  [on tourists] would  raise $100 million annually.   An                                                              
annual  school  tax  might  be another  way  to  raise  funds,  he                                                              
commented.  Mr.  Rasmussen summarized his comments  by saying that                                                              
the statewide  sales tax is a  bad idea and suggested  the members                                                              
look elsewhere for revenue.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 3001                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JAKE JACOBSEN testified  in support of a sales tax.   He commented                                                              
that the  precepts of  equal rights  and responsibility  should be                                                              
shared equally.   However, the most  popular taxes are  those that                                                              
are paid by others.   He told the committee that  he recently read                                                              
that 45  percent of the United  States' population pays  no income                                                              
tax.   In  2000 only  242,000  Alaskans out  of  600,000 paid  any                                                              
income  tax at  all.   Mr. Jacobsen  said he  believes that  taxes                                                              
that  fall  on everyone  equally  will  have better  scrutiny  and                                                              
investigation   by   more  people   and   the  level   of   public                                                              
participation   in   government   would   increase   dramatically.                                                              
Instead of  an income tax, he said  he favors a sales  tax because                                                              
it falls  equally on 100 percent  of the population.   Personal or                                                              
real  property tax  is an  unfair tax,  he opined.   Mr.  Jacobsen                                                              
told the  committee he  favors exempting  all prescription  drugs,                                                              
medical and  dental care, basic  foodstuffs, such as  fresh fruits                                                              
and  vegetables,  dairy  products,   meat  and  fish,  and  senior                                                              
exemptions.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JACOBSEN commented  that the  cost of  administering a  sales                                                              
tax program  would be minimal.   He added that he also  supports a                                                              
lottery and an  entry fee for every nonresident  coming to Alaska.                                                              
Mr. Jacobsen said  that an Anchorage Daily News  article said that                                                            
[Alaska's]  bond rating  will go  down without  a sales tax  which                                                              
will  have  a negative  impact  [on  the  state's finances].    He                                                              
expressed   hope   that   the   legislature   is   successful   in                                                              
implementing  a  statewide 3  percent  sales  tax.   Mr.  Jacobsen                                                              
commented  that he supports  Mr. Anderson's  suggestion that  that                                                              
communities that do  not have a sales tax be mandated  to have one                                                              
to ensure that a statewide sales tax is equitable.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 3422                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
TOM  MERRIMAN testified  in opposition  to HB  293.   He told  the                                                              
members he has been  a small business owner in Kodiak  for over 20                                                              
years  and  one of  the  big concerns  he  has  is the  impact  an                                                              
additional  tax will  have  on sales  in  struggling  times.   The                                                              
fishing  industry  propels Kodiak's  economy  and  it  has been  a                                                              
tough situation for  some time now, he commented.   He opined that                                                              
taxes should be  on a level playing field; however,  that does not                                                              
seem  to be  happening.   Because  of Kodiak's  existing tax,  [an                                                              
additional 3 percent  sales tax is huge].  Mr.  Merriman said that                                                              
an increase will  definitely drive sales off the island.   He told                                                              
the  members  that  Kodiak  is  completely  inundated  with  sales                                                              
promotions  from  outside  the  area.    Mr.  Merriman  asked  the                                                              
members to look  at other sources [of revenue  before implementing                                                              
a statewide  sales tax].  For example,  there are a lot  of people                                                              
who work  in Alaska, but  do not pay  any taxes, especially  those                                                              
who work  on the  North Slope.   Cruise  ships or fishing  vessels                                                              
that  are ported  outside of  Alaska  might be  another source  of                                                              
revenue.  Mr. Merriman  urged the members to find  ways to tighten                                                              
up spending  and  look to  other revenue-producing  opportunities.                                                              
He told the  members that he  believes the statewide sales  tax is                                                              
a bad idea.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 3731                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RON PECK,  President, Alaska  Travel Industry Association  (ATIA),                                                              
testified  in favor  of HB  293.   He  told the  members that  the                                                              
Alaska  Travel Industry  Association  has  a membership  of  1,000                                                              
tourist  and travel-related  businesses in  the state.   Mr.  Peck                                                              
explained  that   50  percent  of   these  businesses   are  small                                                              
businesses with 5 employees or less.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. PECK told the  committee he would like to address  some of the                                                              
comments that  have been made about  the cruise ship  industry and                                                              
their  contribution  or lack  there  of.   Presently,  the  Alaska                                                              
Travel  Industry Association  has  a contract  with  the State  of                                                              
Alaska and  has an annualized budget  of $10 million, of  which $4                                                              
million is  a contribution from the  state and $6 million  is from                                                              
private  contributions.     Of   the  $6  million   [from  private                                                              
contributions],  $2.5 million  comes  directly from  contributions                                                              
from the  cruise industry  and various  marketing and  advertising                                                              
programs.   In addition,  the cruise  industry pays a  substantial                                                              
amount   of  money   for  port   and  docking   fees  to   various                                                              
municipalities  throughout the  state.  Mr.  Peck emphasized  that                                                              
the  [cruise ship  industry] is  a  contributor.   He recalled  an                                                              
earlier statement  that there  were 780,000  visitors who  came to                                                              
Alaska through  the cruise  ship industry and  said the  number is                                                              
closer  to 720,000  people.   He told  the members  that ATIA  has                                                              
been opposed to  targeted taxes on the visitor industry.   Any tax                                                              
should be broad  based, fair, and equitable for all  sectors.  Mr.                                                              
Peck said  the ATIA  recognizes the  fiscal challenges  facing the                                                              
state.   Most of ATIA's  marketing revenues  are derived  from its                                                              
membership,  he said, and  imposition of  any statewide  sales tax                                                              
should  result  in  increased revenues  to  support  the  tourism-                                                              
marketing program.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PECK  said  that  ATIA  estimates   that  30,000  people  are                                                              
employed  in the tourism  industry  and of those,  78 percent  are                                                              
local  hire.    He  told  the  committee   that  $1.8  billion  is                                                              
contributed to the  state's economy, and under HB  293 $54 million                                                              
in revenue will  be generated directly from the  visitor industry.                                                              
He  explained  that  if  the  legislature  were  to  increase  the                                                              
funding to  ATIA's private  match program, then  it would  be able                                                              
to  drastically  improve the  size,  scope,  and impact  of  their                                                              
marketing efforts.   This  would increase  the number  of visitors                                                              
to  Alaska,  contribute   to  the  health  of   small  independent                                                              
businesses, and employ more Alaskan residents.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. PECK read the following resolution passed by ATIA:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
        ALASKA TRAVEL INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION, INCORPORATED                                                                        
                       BOARD OF DIRECTORS                                                                                       
                        RESOLUTION 03-6                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     WHEREAS,  the  Legislature  has  introduced  HB  293,  a                                                                   
     statewide sales  and user tax,  to generate  revenue for                                                                   
     the general fund, and                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     WHEREAS,  the intent of  HB 293 appears  to be  a broad-                                                                   
     based,   fair    and   equitable   revenue    generating                                                                   
     mechanism, and                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     WHEREAS,  a substantial amount  of the monies  collected                                                                   
     from this  tax will come  from visitors whose  travel to                                                                   
     Alaska is the result of marketing done by ATIA, and                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     WHEREAS,  tourism is  an  important contributor  to  the                                                                   
     overall  economic  vitality  to  the  state  of  Alaska,                                                                   
     having  an excellent  record of  employing Alaska  state                                                                   
     residents as evidenced by a 78% local hire rate, and                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     WHEREAS,  the  Alaska  Tourism   Industry  continues  to                                                                   
     decline  due  to  a  lack  of  sustainable  funding  for                                                                   
     destination marketing, and                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     WHEREAS, ATIA has identified a long-stated need to                                                                         
     increase its statewide tourism marketing efforts to                                                                        
     reverse the decline in this vital economic engine for                                                                      
     Alaska, and                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     WHEREAS, ATIA believes the funds generated from                                                                            
     tourism businesses in Alaska should be appropriated                                                                        
     annually to fund a long-term sustainable tourism-                                                                          
     marketing program to reverse the decline and to grow                                                                       
     Alaska's second largest private industry.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     THEREFORE  BE  IT  RESOLVED   THAT  the  ATIA  Board  of                                                                   
     Directors supports  the intent of HB 293,  provided that                                                                   
     a  significant  portion  of   those  revenues  generated                                                                   
     thereby   shall  be   used   to  increase   the   states                                                                   
     contribution  to  statewide tourism  marketing  efforts.                                                                   
     [original punctuation provided]                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PECK  closed  his  comments   by  saying  that  tourists  are                                                              
accustomed to  paying sales taxes,  whether it's in  Disneyland or                                                              
Las Vegas.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 4318                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KAREN ROGINA, Executive  Vice President, Alaska Hotel  and Lodging                                                              
Association,  testified  in  support of  HB  293.   She  told  the                                                              
committee   that  the   Alaska  Hotel   and  Lodging   Association                                                              
represents  over  80  percent  of  lodging  rooms  in  Alaska  and                                                              
employs over 6,000  individuals.  Ms. Rogina said  the hospitality                                                              
industry  recognizes  that  the   state  is  faced  with  economic                                                              
challenges and  that the lodging  industry is a  major contributor                                                              
to  state and  local economies  through  taxation and  fees.   She                                                              
pointed out that  a big part of the industry  includes hotels that                                                              
are occupied  by cruise  ship travelers.   The  industry has  long                                                              
supported a broad-based  taxation solution and believes  that this                                                              
solution  must  be  linked  to   the  sustainability  of  Alaska's                                                              
tourism and hospitality  industry.  In this way  the industry will                                                              
continue  to grow  and  contribute  to the  state's  economy.   In                                                              
summary, Ms. Rogina  said the industry supports HB  293 as long as                                                              
a  portion  of  the  revenues  generated  is  accompanied  with  a                                                              
commensurate appropriation to tourism marketing.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 4518                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JEFF JABUCH, Acting  City Manager, City of Wrangell,  testified in                                                              
opposition  to the  statewide  sales  tax, and  offered  suggested                                                              
revisions  which would  include  a  sales tax  cap  of 8  percent,                                                              
[vehicle  sales  cap of  $5,000],  and  changes to  the  self-help                                                              
grants.    Mr.  Jabuch  read  the  following  statement  into  the                                                              
record:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Limiting the  overall sales tax rate to 8  percent, with                                                                   
     3 percent  going to  the state, would  cost the  City of                                                                   
     Wrangell  between  $500,000  and $535,000  per  year  or                                                                   
     approximately  16 percent  of our  current general  fund                                                                   
     budget.   The  provision that  may grant  up to $50  per                                                                   
     capita to  communities that  are currently at  6 percent                                                                   
     or  higher would  not  come  close to  compensating  the                                                                   
     City of  Wrangell for the  lost revenue.  Fifty  percent                                                                   
     per  capita  would  generate  $107,200.   The  State  of                                                                   
     Alaska's  history with  that  kind of  wording does  not                                                                   
     give our  city a lot  of confidence.  Senior  exemptions                                                                   
     are  mandated  and  at one  time  the  communities  were                                                                   
     reimbursed at 100 percent.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 03-23, SIDE B                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Due to technical difficulties part of Mr. Jabuch's testimony                                                                   
was not recorded.]                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. JABUCH continued:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     ...from  the  State  and  the  program  costs  us  about                                                                   
     $150,000 per  year or 15 percent of total  property tax.                                                                   
     This will be  no different.  Promise of  community self-                                                                   
     help matching  grants are currently  offered to  make it                                                                   
     acceptable  for  passage,  but several  years  down  the                                                                   
     road it  will not be fully  funded and it will  take the                                                                   
     same path as the senior exemptions did.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     If  this amendment  remains as  it is  written, it  will                                                                   
     essentially take  2 percent of Wrangell's  current sales                                                                   
     tax  revenue   and  transfer  it  to  the   state.    In                                                                   
     addition, it  limits the municipality in its  ability to                                                                   
     use sales  taxes as a  means to support local  services.                                                                   
     The self-help  grant would put back about  20 percent of                                                                   
     this  if it is  fully funded,  but even  with it we  are                                                                   
     losing  most of the  2 percent.   Wrangell  has had  a 7                                                                   
     percent sales  tax since 1990.   We have relied  on that                                                                   
     revenue and  have tried to  maintain our services  based                                                                   
     on this  revenue.   This amendment  would have a  larger                                                                   
     negative  impact on Wrangell  than any other  community.                                                                   
     We  do not  think  this is  a fair  way  to balance  the                                                                   
     state  budget and  strongly  urge the  state to  rethink                                                                   
     this amendment.   Our proposal would  be to cap it  at 8                                                                   
     percent,  but grandfather  in  current  local sales  tax                                                                   
     levels   rather   than   administering   the   self-help                                                                   
     program.   The state could  take the difference  between                                                                   
     the  existing sales tax  and 8  percent.   The cap  of 8                                                                   
     percent,  with  7  percent  coming  to the  city  and  1                                                                   
     percent to  the state would  be more tolerable.   Alaska                                                                   
     only has  a handful of  communities that  have a 6  or 7                                                                   
     percent sales  tax rate.  The state would  get 1 percent                                                                   
     from  Wrangell,  2 percent  from  the handful  of  other                                                                   
     communities,   and  the  full   3  percent  from   other                                                                   
     communities.   This isn't going  to cost the  state that                                                                   
     much  money and  it will  keep  whole those  communities                                                                   
     that  rely  on  these  tax   dollars  to  support  local                                                                   
     services.     You  may  get   some  inequity   or  legal                                                                   
     questions, but  you are going  to get these  concerns no                                                                   
     matter what you do.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     We  respectfully  requested   you  consider  either  the                                                                   
     above   alternative   or    others   that   will   leave                                                                   
     communities  whole  and does  not force  communities  to                                                                   
     give  portions  of current  sales  tax revenues  to  the                                                                   
     state.    The   self-help  matching  grants   is  not  a                                                                   
     solution  to this  problem.   Making  these  communities                                                                   
     whole is the only solution.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 4401                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DOROTHY  ANDERSON testified  on HB  293.  She  told the  committee                                                              
that she represents  only herself and pointed out  that Dillingham                                                              
currently has a 6  percent sales tax.  She said  with about a $400                                                              
grocery  cost per  month  her family  pays  about $288  a year  in                                                              
sales tax; however,  if [this legislation passes]  residents would                                                              
be paying  a 9  percent sales  tax which  would bring  the tax  on                                                              
groceries [for  her family] to $432  per year.  She said  she does                                                              
not see  that capping  would be  of any  help, because  Dillingham                                                              
cannot afford  to lose the  6 percent sales  tax that is  in place                                                              
now.   Ms. Anderson explained  that the community  added a 1  to 2                                                              
percent  sales  tax a  couple  of years  ago  to help  the  school                                                              
district  compensate for  reduced  state funding.    She said  she                                                              
would support  a sales tax  on all communities [with  populations]                                                              
over 1,500.   This  tax should be  exempted from communities  that                                                              
already pay a local sales tax.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  ANDERSON  pointed  out that  communities  that  face  fishing                                                              
disasters,  such  as Dillingham,  need  to  be exempted  from  any                                                              
sales  tax at this  point.   She urged  the committee  to look  at                                                              
reinstating  the school  tax.   Forty  years  ago it  was $10  per                                                              
year, she said, and thus she suggested making it $100 per year.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 4226                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL O'LEARY  testified in  opposition to HB  293.  He  said he                                                              
recognizes  the   state's  fiscal  crisis  and  agrees   that  all                                                              
residents need  to pay  their fair share;  however, the  sales tax                                                              
falls  disproportionately hard  on rural  Alaska.   The goods  and                                                              
services in  rural Alaska cost sometimes  70 percent more  than in                                                              
Anchorage; therefore,  the tax would  be 70 percent higher  on the                                                              
same  goods as  those that  are sold  in Anchorage.   Mr.  O'Leary                                                              
said that  it is just not  fair.  The  people in rural  Alaska are                                                              
struggling  and they  are the backbone  of Alaska's  economy.   He                                                              
pointed out  that sales taxes do  not hit all people  equally; for                                                              
instance,   it  does   not  hit   the   nonresident  visitors   or                                                              
nonresident  commercial fishermen,  construction  workers, or  oil                                                              
field workers in  the way that it hits year round  residents.  Mr.                                                              
O'Leary  told the  members  that  he lives  and  works in  Western                                                              
Alaska,  and  has  seen how  nonresident  visitor  and  commercial                                                              
fishermen come to  Alaska and pay almost nothing.   The loggers in                                                              
Western Alaska  bring vanloads  of food  and commercial  fishermen                                                              
do  the  same  thing.   He  told  the  members  that  construction                                                              
workers  live in  camps;  they come  up to  Alaska,  make a  large                                                              
income, and  spend almost nothing  here.   He added that  the same                                                              
goes  for oil  workers.   These large  companies bring  everything                                                              
with them.   Sometimes there are  barge loads of stuff  and [under                                                              
this bill]  they would  not be  paying any  sales tax;  whereas, a                                                              
small family  will have  to pay a  huge amount of  sales tax.   In                                                              
closing, Mr.  O'Leary said  he recognizes  that everyone  needs to                                                              
be paying his or  her fair share, but a sales tax  is not the fair                                                              
way to go.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 4001                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEBORAH  REFIOR,   Owner,  Kodiak   Motors,  Inc.,   testified  in                                                              
opposition  to HB 293.   She told  the committee  that she  owns a                                                              
local Ford  agency in town and has  lived in Kodiak for  24 years.                                                              
Ms.  Refior  noted  that  the committee  is  planning  on  capping                                                              
[sales tax  on] vehicles at $5,000.   [If this bill  passes] there                                                              
will  be a  $400 sales  tax [which]  would increase  the cost  [of                                                              
purchasing  a vehicle]  such  that  it would  be  higher than  any                                                              
other area  in Alaska.  Ms.  Refior pointed out that  as fisheries                                                              
decline, the  increased [sales tax]  on individual  families would                                                              
be too  much.   She said  she believes  the legislature  should be                                                              
looking at the permanent  fund as the first line  of defense.  Ms.                                                              
Refior  suggested  the  state  work   with  the  Internal  Revenue                                                              
Service in  reducing the amount  of permanent fund money  which is                                                              
paid to the federal government in taxes.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 3822                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ANN  KALCIC testified  in  opposition to  HB  293.   She told  the                                                              
committee that  she has  lived in  Kodiak for 27  years and  is an                                                              
end  user, which  she explained  means  that she  buys items  that                                                              
have been  produced elsewhere.   Ms. Kalcic told the  members that                                                              
she  and her  husband get  income from  rentals and  a boat  yard.                                                              
She  said  that   her  husband  is  a  Kodiak   salmon  fisherman.                                                              
Currently, the  City of Kodiak  has a 6  percent sales tax  with a                                                              
cap of $500,  so there is a $30  [tax] on every sale  of goods and                                                              
services supplied to  their customers and on every  item that they                                                              
buy.    The  new  bill will  increase  the  tax  an  additional  3                                                              
percent.   Unless  there  is a  restructuring  [of  HB 293]  there                                                              
would not be a  cap of $500, the city would get  5 percent and the                                                              
state would get  3 percent.  With the exception of  a $5,000 state                                                              
sales tax  exemption for the purchase  of a vehicle, an  8 percent                                                              
sales tax would be charged across the board.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. KALCIC pointed  out that 95 percent of her  sales exceed $500.                                                              
She  posed an  example in  which she  and her  husband sell  their                                                              
fishing  boat for $200,000.   Under  the current  tax scheme  they                                                              
would pay a $30  sales tax, but under this legislation  they would                                                              
have to  pay $16,000  at 8 percent.   If they  decided to  stay in                                                              
the fishery  they would need to  purchase a comparable  boat which                                                              
would cost at least  $650,000.  It would be necessary  to purchase                                                              
it in  Washington State because  fiberglass boats are not  made in                                                              
Alaska.   In Washington they  would pay a  9 percent sales  tax on                                                              
$650,000 or  $58,500 and because  Alaska would have a  state sales                                                              
tax,  they  would no  longer  be  exempt from  Washington  State's                                                              
sales taxes.   She also  pointed out that  when they  register the                                                              
new boat in Alaska  they would pay Kodiak 5 percent  and the State                                                              
of  Alaska  3  percent,  so  they  would  end  up  paying  another                                                              
$52,000.  Ms. Kalcic  said she sees nothing in the  bill that caps                                                              
items  that were  purchased  elsewhere.   She  reiterated that  if                                                              
there is  no exemption in state  sales taxes here,  Alaskans would                                                              
have  to pay  sales tax  in  Washington State.    Ms. Kalcic  gave                                                              
other examples  of the  negative impact the  sales tax  would have                                                              
on Kodiak fishermen.   She told the members that  a sales tax will                                                              
not help her  as a fisherman or  end user.  She asked  the members                                                              
to please  reconsider their  revenue sources  because a  sales tax                                                              
in the Bush is not a fair tax.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 3244                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN BUTLER, Owner,  John's Heating Service Company,  testified in                                                              
opposition to  HB 293.   He told the  committee he believes  it is                                                              
inevitable some  sort of tax  will be necessary,  but if it  is to                                                              
be a sales  tax he said he would  like to see some  changes to the                                                              
bill.  One  suggested change would  be to protect seniors  and let                                                              
the  city administer  or collect  the  funds.   Letting the  state                                                              
collect  the funds  would hurt the  City of  Kodiak immensely,  he                                                              
said.   Mr. Butler  also suggested  a tax cap,  adding that  a tax                                                              
cap of  $5,000 is  way too much  [for local people  to pay].   The                                                              
end user is  going to slow down  for his business, as  it will for                                                              
many others.   Customers  will take  a second  look at  [the added                                                              
sales  tax] and  not  make the  purchases and  thus  it will  hurt                                                              
businesses and employees.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 3106                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT   BRANDT-ERICHSEN,  Borough   Attorney,  Ketchikan   Gateway                                                              
Borough, testified on  HB 293.  He told the members  that the City                                                              
Manager  from Palmer,  as  did the  gentleman  from Cordova,  made                                                              
some good  points.  Most  of the municipalities  in the  state are                                                              
generally  opposed to  a  state sales  tax,  he said.   Among  the                                                              
concerns  of  this  legislation   is  the  centralized  collection                                                              
[language]   that  allows  for   the  state   to  be   the  entity                                                              
responsible for  all sales taxes.   Mr. Brandt-Erichsen  said that                                                              
there  is  a  great  concern  that   [this  system]  will  not  be                                                              
effective  or  efficient.    With the  current  system  there  are                                                              
complaints of businesses  evading sales taxes by  not reporting or                                                              
hiding  sales through  evasive  interaction  with  customers.   If                                                              
there is  centralized collection,  there is  a great concern  that                                                              
there  would be  more  of that  going  on.   He  said a  secondary                                                              
concern  is  the  exemption.   As  was  mentioned  by  a  previous                                                              
speaker, very few,  if any, sales tax ordinances  around the state                                                              
are identical.   Most have their own unique exemptions  and limits                                                              
on  their sales  tax, limits  that  are important  to avoid  sales                                                              
leaving the  community.   Mr. Brandt-Erichsen  commented  that one                                                              
exemption that  is missing  from HB 293  is medical services.   It                                                              
can be very complicated  when getting into third  party payees and                                                              
Medicare  paid   services.    He   told  the  members   that  most                                                              
communities  find it easier  to avoid  that area.   There  is also                                                              
concern with  regard to  the special  taxes that some  communities                                                              
have;  for  example,  hotel/motel  taxes  are  sometimes  used  to                                                              
subsidize the local visitors bureaus.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRANDT-ERICHSEN  pointed out  that the  sales tax  as compared                                                              
to other  forms of taxes, are  not deductible from  federal taxes,                                                              
so it  makes them less  desirable.  He  asked whether there  is an                                                              
amendment to  cap the  sales tax at  8 percent.   He said  that is                                                              
important for  cities such as  Ketchikan where there  is currently                                                              
a sales  tax at  3.5 percent,  the borough  has a  sales tax  of 2                                                              
percent.   A 3 percent  state sales tax would  make it a  total of                                                              
8.5  percent.   Mr.  Brandt-Erichsen  said he  does  not know  who                                                              
would not  get .5 percent sales  tax revenue between the  city and                                                              
borough if  the cumulative  total between  the sales taxes  exceed                                                              
an  8 percent  cap.   He said  he  believes that  is an  important                                                              
issue  that should  be  addressed  if a  cap  is considered.    In                                                              
summary, he  suggested that if  a sales tax  is going to  be done,                                                              
one  method  that  might  be preferred  is  passing  taxes  on  to                                                              
visitors or third parties.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRANDT-ERICHSEN  suggested that  local individuals  be allowed                                                              
to acquire  an exemption  card  on an  annual basis  for a fee  of                                                              
$100  [for an  individual] and  a different  rate for  businesses.                                                              
Anyone  could buy  an exemption  card and  not pay  the 3  percent                                                              
sales tax, he said.   The benefit of this is that  the state would                                                              
get  the  revenue  from  the  exemption   card  sales,  and  those                                                              
entities,  visitors, or individuals  who  do not participate  with                                                              
an exemption card  would pay the sales tax.  He  opined that while                                                              
it  may be  a little  less than  the  3 percent  across the  board                                                              
[sales tax], it  would still be a substantial  contribution to the                                                              
state's revenues.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 2609                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG noted that  Mr. Brandt-Erichsen  and one                                                              
other testifier  suggested annual exemption  cards.  He  asked Mr.                                                              
Brandt-Erichsen  how the  state  would prevent  other people  from                                                              
channeling their sales to the person with the exemption card.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2537                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BRANDT-ERICHSEN responded  that  the way  the senior  citizen                                                              
exemption  works in  Ketchikan is  that the  merchant records  and                                                              
reports  the exemption  at  the  time of  purchase.    He said  he                                                              
believes  the   Costco  concept   could  work,  where   an  annual                                                              
membership fee  is paid and then  the cardholder gets  a discount.                                                              
A swipe card  could minimize the  paperwork portion.  He  said the                                                              
person  would have  to present  a  card with  his/her picture  and                                                              
appropriate information to be exempt from the sales tax.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2444                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN  RITCHIE,  Executive  Director,   Alaska  Municipal  League,                                                              
testified  on  HB   293.    He  thanked  the   members  for  their                                                              
leadership in helping  state [residents] understand  that there is                                                              
a   very  significant   fiscal  problem.     He   said  that   his                                                              
understanding is  that on July  1, 2005,  the budget will  have to                                                              
reflect  a  serious  drop  in  revenue.    Mr.  Ritchie  told  the                                                              
committee  that the  Alaska Municipal  League  Board of  Directors                                                              
recognizes that as a very serious problem.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RITCHIE told  the members  that the  Alaska Municipal  League                                                              
was involved  in the tax  cap campaign  that happened a  couple of                                                              
years ago.  He  said that when the campaign started  70 percent of                                                              
Alaskans  thought  it was  a  good  idea  to cap  property  taxes.                                                              
Given  that there  was an  event,  good information,  and a  large                                                              
number of  groups throughout the  state that talked to  the public                                                              
and explained  the kinds of impacts  that would occur if  [the cap                                                              
on property taxes]  happens, the final impact was  that 70 percent                                                              
of the people in Alaska thought it would not be a good idea.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RITCHIE   suggested  that   all  major  civic   and  business                                                              
organizations be  marshaled to talk  to the public  about impacts.                                                              
If  the administration  and legislature  were to  make that  call,                                                              
there could  be results  with broad  discussions on economics  and                                                              
impacts  of different  options.    He said  he  is convinced  that                                                              
there will  be significant  negative impacts  if nothing  is done,                                                              
and he is also  convinced that Alaskans are better  than anyone in                                                              
the world at coming together during an emergency.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RITCHIE called  attention to  the  Alaska Municipal  League's                                                              
legislative  priorities.   The  top priority  for  the last  eight                                                              
years has  been to help the  state adopt a long-range  fiscal plan                                                              
that  would include,  among  other things,  economic  development.                                                              
The  Alaska  Municipal  League  is  working  with  the  governor's                                                              
office  to setup  a regional  economic  development strategy  that                                                              
will help communities recover from their current ills.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RITCHIE  told the  members  that  when the  Alaska  Municipal                                                              
League Board  of Directors was in  town, they passed  a resolution                                                              
supporting all of  Governor Murkowski's revenue proposals  so far,                                                              
with the exception  of the sales tax.  This  resolution recognizes                                                              
the  problem,  and  says  the  Alaska  Municipal  League  will  do                                                              
anything to  help.  He pointed  out that Mayor Cooper  from Palmer                                                              
is  the  new  president  of the  Alaska  Municipal  League.    Mr.                                                              
Ritchie added that  [Mayor Cooper] is representative  of the board                                                              
in   terms  of   energy  and   commitment   to  carrying-on   that                                                              
conversation  and bringing in  other partners  to weigh in  on the                                                              
impacts  and  consequences  [of   the  fiscal  issues  facing  the                                                              
state].                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 2051                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. RITCHIE commented  that he was recently talking  with a member                                                              
of the  constitutional convention  who told him that  historically                                                              
the income tax,  which was in place from 1948 to  1980, [addressed                                                              
revenue  needs]  and  even during  times  with  significant  state                                                              
distress,  the  sales  tax  had  always  been  left  to  municipal                                                              
governments.   The reason  that has  been the case  is due  to the                                                              
complexities  and  significant  differences  between  communities.                                                              
Mr.  Ritchie provided  the  members with  some  research that  was                                                              
done by  the Alaska Municipal  League in 1999.   He added  that it                                                              
may  not be  necessarily accurate  today,  but it  serves to  show                                                              
different exemptions  that existed  in different communities.   He                                                              
pointed out  that the survey included  72 cities or  two-thirds of                                                              
the cities  that have sales  taxes; 22 out  of the 72  cities have                                                              
senior sales tax  exemptions and 50 do not.  If  the state did not                                                              
allow for a senior  exemption in the sales tax  program, 22 cities                                                              
would have seniors  that would go from paying nothing  to paying a                                                              
very significant  sales tax; however,  if the state were  to allow                                                              
senior  exemptions, the  rest of  the cities  would have a  senior                                                              
exemption and  be out significant  revenues.  He told  the members                                                              
this is  an important  policy issue  as far  as having  an overall                                                              
one  size fits  all  state  plan.   Furthermore,  implementing  it                                                              
immediately would  be a real problem  for [local] economies.   Mr.                                                              
Ritchie told  the members that there  are a wide range  of caps on                                                              
sales   taxes  that   were  all   well-thought   out  to   address                                                              
communities'  concern for  keeping  as equal  footing as  possible                                                              
for commerce  to continue.   He told the  members that  the Alaska                                                              
Municipal League  is at  the legislature's  disposal to  assist in                                                              
any way  possible, and will  work to bring  facts and  issues out,                                                              
and offer a variety of options.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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CO-CHAIR  WHITAKER  announced that  is  the conclusion  of  public                                                              
testimony on HB 293.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[HB 293 was held in committee.]                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

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